Group Session -- Consciousness, Mapping & AI Workflow

Participant 2: Right, right, I know, I know. But Jeff does have the note taker there too, so I mean that's... Yeah, I don't know if he's taking notes though. Oh, okay. But yeah, if you would get him, that'd be great, man.

Participant 1: Yeah. Because there's so much, especially with what you're doing with Claude. That's pretty cool, man, so... Yeah, thanks. No, that's, uh... Yeah, I just... I'm just trying to think of how I stumbled onto doing that. You know what?

Participant 1: Before I do that, I heard my coffee maker just stopped, so I'm going to go grab my coffee, I'm going to be right back, and then I'll... Alright. I'll do some secrets. I'll be right back. Alright.

Participant 2: Okay.

Participant 1: Thanks for indulging me in the pause.

Participant 2: Yes, you're welcome. I like to pause.

Participant 1: That was good. Okay. Now I'm all ready. I think I mentioned it in some other meetings, I've been working some night shifts, so I've been... Because I'm experimenting all the time with my routines and habits and all that sort of stuff, and I've just kind of gravitated, always gravitated to being a night owl.

Participant 2: Yeah. Same here.

Participant 1: So I'll just stay up until... Like, I couldn't do that before. Like, when I had a job, of course.

Participant 2: Right, right. 6 o'clock, and if you wanted to have a workout, it means being up at 5, and there was times where I was part of the 4 a.m. club, and it was always like wearing a shoe that didn't quite fit, you know, so...

Participant 1: Right, right. The night owl way, it's like, okay, well, 1 in the morning, that's like nothing for me. 2 in the morning sometimes.

Participant 2: It feels the same. I've been on vacation from the job this week, and same thing, man. I mean, last night I had a newsletter to get out, so I try to write a story, a short story in there. Every 2 weeks my newsletter goes out, and it was long. And so I knew since I had the week off, I didn't start it really until Wednesday, and it goes out either Wednesday night or Thursday morning, you have to go out at 8. And so I was up, it just got to be long, and I was like 4 a.m. before I finished. Then I got up at like 9:30 or 10, and I was fine. And that just feels so much more natural to me than trying to get up at 5 and go to bed at 10.

Participant 1: Yeah. I just struggle getting to bed at 9 o'clock, 10 o'clock.

Participant 2: I feel the same way, man. I know, I know. I did the 5 a.m. for a while, and it's with a job you kind of need to if you want to get stuff done in the morning.

Participant 2: I mean, just like a couple days ago, you know, I was watching, I caught some video on YouTube. Because usually when I doom scroll, my scrolling is spiritual things or business things or writing craft things. So those are the things I usually get lost on. On occasion, I'll get one that guys are just talking about women and how childish women are because they have no mental autonomy, which I laugh at, and it's absolutely true. But usually, yeah, they're educational things. And so this one I got stuck on.

Participant 2: I was looking at craft stuff, and there's a story that popped up. It was very well done. It was, what if Superman landed in the predator planet, you know? And it was just like, it was two hours, and the guy just had imagery that he did with Midjourney or something. And just talking about the story, what if Superman landed on their planet? Well, they challenged him to duels. We will have three predators, younglings come out, and they will track you.

Participant 2: And he says, well, I won't move. I'll just stay in the same spot. And so then there's this whole thing about him changing predator society because of his peaceful ways and stuff like that. But being so strong, nothing can harm him. And so he changed completely predator culture and their civilization.

Participant 2: It was so good. It was just an audio, and I think the audio was probably AI, too. And they just said every minute or a couple minutes have new images. Probably weren't even accurate because sometimes a predator's mouth was not correct. But it gave you something new to look at. And it was so good a story that it kept me up until 2 a.m. just listening to that stupid thing. So that's fun, though. But it gave me ideas to do kind of like with my YouTube channel because I kind of want to start that kind of going on my Monster Hunter living thing.

Participant 2: So it gave me some ideas. Maybe I could do some stories in that. But yeah, it just feels so much more natural just to stay up late and do that.

Participant 1: Yeah. It's more natural. It just feels like when it comes to 9 to 10 o'clock at night, there's times where I'm thinking, okay, well, it's time to wind down. But my mind still hasn't wound down yet. It still wants to go and do stuff. Then you get into that relaxed state a little bit in the evening because you've got no phone calls coming in. There's nobody really that can demand anything from you at 8 or 9 or 10 o'clock at night.

Participant 2: Right. And it's like, oh, now I've got these ideas. Now I want to try this one little thing, this one little idea that I had. And that takes you down the rabbit hole for a while. And some of the scrolling that I do, yeah, now that I think of it, there's times it depends on just my energy levels and that, too. There's times where if my energy level is low, I probably should just go to bed because that's when I start to doom scroll. But there's other times, too, where I'm just scrolling for ideas, just ideas scrolling, I guess. That's what it comes down to.

Participant 1: So yeah, I mean, and I can think of when I got back onto this. I think it was late last summer or early fall, I had this big project from a client to do. And it turned out to be a much shorter timeline than what everybody was expecting because my client's client had some pretty demanding expectations. So all of a sudden, it's like, oh, well, now this whole timeline just got compressed. I'm not going to be able to contract anything out. So I just ended up just ramming it all through and getting it done. The client was pretty happy with what the final product was, but I ended up staying up until 1 o'clock, 2 o'clock, 3 o'clock in the morning to get this whole thing done for over a couple of weeks.

Participant 1: And I thought that, okay, but I'm not really going to, it's not going to do me any good to sacrifice any sleep. So I still aimed for about seven hours of sleep, and I just kind of got up at a time that was seven or eight hours later. So as far as I could tell, I was still pretty energetic, got things done on time, and just found myself, found that I could be a lot more productive later in the day than in the mornings. So I guess I just kind of found it and just kind of paid attention to what I gravitated to, I suppose.

Participant 2: I wonder if it's, if the dark has something to do with it, because in the mornings when it's dark, I feel much more focused and I can get stuff done. But if there's sun out, it doesn't matter if it's 7 a.m. or 2 p.m., I feel less productive and like I want to do, I don't want to sit down and just do stuff. So I wonder if the darkness has something to do with it.

Participant 1: It could be. It could also be, too, that there are fewer distractions. There's bound to be fewer external distractions. I think that's part of it, too. So that time where you're into the evening, especially later in the day, because later in the day, most people are kind of winding down from work. So they're not really going to start making phone calls and start business discussions or anything like that later in the day. Those are more likely to start mid-morning. In the evening, of course, nobody's going to be phoning you for client work unless they know you well, unless you're friends. And then of course, at 11 o'clock, midnight, absolutely nobody is phoning.

Participant 1: There's no external demands. Nobody's knocking on your door. Nobody's asking you for this or that. You're totally in control of that time. So that's my theory anyway.

Participant 2: And your mind is winding down too. So I think the neocortex, that frontal lobe is out of your way more. And so when you want to allow spirit to move through you, consciousness to flow through you, you got to stop thinking. And so I think at night, when you get your own will out of the way, spirit, consciousness, creativity can flow through you better. I think that has something to do with it too. So when you're tired, at 10 o'clock, you're feeling kind of down. You feel like you should go to bed. But that's when you come alive. That's because your brain is out of the way. And now spirit consciousness can finally say, hey man, let's play. And so I feel that part too. So it's like, you know, getting drunk. You get drunk and you get out of your own way and you say what you really feel, right? It's the same thing.

Participant 1: Yeah, that makes sense. Actually, that does make sense. So that helps to explain things. All right. Well, let's do the official WINS challenge or anything like that, man. You got anything you want to share?

Participant 1: As far as WINS, I have had progress on my mapping project. I can show you that a little later here too. So that's something that I've been spending some late nights on, a lot with AI. And as far as some signal in all the noise, I've had some good early feedback on it from people in relevant circles, so that's generated a little sense of urgency to get this thing done and wrapped up and live. It's very close now. It's taken a little longer than I expected to wire up the payment side of things, because I've kind of been going a little bit back and forth on the offer structure of the whole thing. So I went with, had a little discussion with my virtual board in Claude, and I've completely simplified things. It's like one offer and that's it. So I'm going to kind of rewire and reformat some of my pages to just simplify it, which will be fine. The direction now is very clear.

Participant 1: So that might take another few days of focus days. If I just worked on that and nothing else, maybe three days, three solid eight to ten hour days to maybe get it done and get things to a point where it's like, okay, this is something I'm happy with putting out.

Participant 1: And it does a few things because even if it doesn't generate a ton of revenue, which I'm not expecting, the market is relatively small and niche, but what can come after is a good portfolio piece. And it is going to generate some conversations and opportunities beyond that. So it'll probably make a little bit of money too.

Participant 1: So that's kind of how I got into it. I just kind of started exploring and experimenting and started going down the path and it's like, okay, well this is actually turning into a SaaS project here.

Participant 2: So what's your, what does that mean? The SaaS, what is that?

Participant 1: Software as a service. So it's like a subscriber system and people can subscribe to it and it does various things to help them out.

Participant 2: Oh, okay. I see that all over the place. Like what in the heck is that? Yeah. Okay. So okay, so any digital things you give them, that's software as a service?

Participant 1: That's right. Yeah. Something that they subscribe to and pay for. It's software as a service. And of course with them, they aim for monthly recurring revenue. But really with what I'm doing, it's not really geared to monthly revenue. It's geared more toward a one-time transaction. The biggest value in it is a downloadable report that you get from it, and campaigns have historically paid significant amounts to get this kind of analysis done for their area. So I'm just simplifying all of that and making it accessible directly.

Participant 1: So we made some progress on that. And other than that, no, not a lot of other work though. It's been a little slower this year. So that's where, you know, it's easy to get kind of down. If I just kind of sit around and do nothing, then you kind of think, oh, okay, I gotta get some money coming in here. So this is where it's been part of the motivation for the SaaS project, because I have had some signal on it. There could be something to it. And I'm kind of close to getting it to an actual legitimate product here now anyway. So I might as well get it through the finish line. And then it's like, okay, world, this is either going to be a big lesson or it's going to be something. I'm going to buy groceries for the next several months.

Participant 2: So one of the things, like Goldsmith always says, is just like, don't worry about the outcome. Like how much money is it going to make me? And it's always about the consciousness behind it. So you learn stuff, you enjoy doing it, and you could use it all in other kinds of projects. And so it might, if it doesn't sell now or nobody buys it now, it's a seed in six months. Somebody might, you know what I mean? It might grow more and more and more. So you just don't know. So when we gear everything up to that final outcome, we're always disappointed. And then it's not a good start.

Participant 1: No, and that's where for this, there is something that's just been pulling me along on it. Some kind of a sense that this is a thing. I mean, it's genuinely interesting and I genuinely do enjoy learning the whole process on it. And there is a use for it at the end of the day. So even if I was just to take a step back, it allows me a chance to experiment with some of the concepts that we've talked about too over the last several months and years.

Participant 1: It's like relax, you know, just kind of live your life, do the things that you want to do, not worry about it and relax and let the universe kind of take care of things. So it's a chance to experiment with some of that, with actually doing that, with actually implementing that philosophy. So I haven't -- and that's where I've just kind of relaxed. I have some savings that I've accumulated over a career. So if I make no money in the coming month, it's like, we're not going to be in dire straits. It does give me a chance to just relax about it.

Participant 1: And usually my wife and I were talking about this the other night. It's like, usually how things have worked out in my life is that anytime that I've really needed money, it's always come in somehow. Some opportunity came up. And I said that cause I've still got the cash sitting in my account from when we sold the condo. Most of it's got to get allocated for taxes, right? Most of it is going to get eaten up for taxes. So I've got to put it away, but it's still just sitting there in an account. And I know that, and I told my wife this, I said, I'll bet you, as soon as I just get it allocated where it's supposed to go, that'll create room for some more money to come back in.

Participant 2: Once you take it out, does that create some negative motivation to go out there and do some more action?

Participant 1: Um, that'll probably naturally happen the way that my mind and my patterns work. I think having that cash sitting there does create a little bit of comfort for me.

Participant 1: And there is another opportunity too that I have been working on, and that's with a new client of mine. I can call him a client now cause he actually paid an invoice, you know, a significant one. So there are some things to do on that side. Very early stuff. We'll see where that goes yet, but there's some signal in the noise there for me to tune into.

Participant 1: Oh, and I did get a garden planted. So that was good.

Participant 2: Oh, good. I need to do that this weekend. I need to order some plants to plant.

Participant 1: Yeah, it kind of feels good having some raspberry bushes out there and we've already got some growth on it. So we'll actually get a handful of raspberries this year, but next year we'll have a few.

Participant 2: You're going to make some jam or what?

Participant 1: I don't know if we'll have enough for that. That's just going to be enough to go and snack on a few in the morning. At my parents' place, when I was a kid, my parents had raspberry bushes all along the back fence, and it would grow outside the fence too into the back alley. And we'd have neighbors that would come and just harvest too. So which is great. There'd be people that come along with buckets and you could easily fill an ice cream pail with the amount they had. There was lots there.

Participant 2: That's richness right there. That's heaven right there.

Participant 1: Oh, I loved it. Never got tired of it. So yeah, I'm looking forward to having some raspberries here this year. And I keep reminding myself that we don't own this house here, but we're not the kind of people that like to move around a lot either. So we'll probably be here a few more years yet.

Participant 1: Every place that I've moved to, I've always regretted not planting something. So the last place we moved to, we had a house 10 years ago and we sold it. And we sold it when I had just, I think the year before we sold, I had put a new roof on, got new shingles, about $10,000 to $15,000 on that. I put a natural gas line out to the back for a barbecue. That was about $500 to $600. Put air conditioning in, got a garage heater. I put in a pond, a watering system in the garden and planted asparagus. And then the next year it's like, we had a big change in government, like a massive change in government. I just kind of thought, oh shit, no good is going to come from this. And I was right. And so we decided to sell, and there were layoffs going on at work too.

Participant 1: And it's like, I don't want to be sitting on a mortgage. We had the financing put together from back in the previous boom. So we weren't really paying the mortgage down. It was a line of credit and things were just tight. There's layoffs going around, the economy's going into the tank, and this house was always in my mind a step to something else. And so let's sell it, rent a place for a few years and just find a safe harbor until things clear up. So we sold the house after all that stuff, after making it, putting down roots literally and making it my own. And we just had to walk away from it.

Participant 2: That's hard, man. But it wouldn't have sold very well if you didn't have the roof fixed anyway. So inevitably it was in your favor anyway.

Participant 1: Yeah. Well, I had my real estate license 30 years ago, like when I was 18, I got my real estate license. And in the course, I always remember this. There was a lawyer that taught one of the modules. And he said that in this country, you really don't own land. He said, what you own is a bundle of rights to land. He said, if you really want to know who owns your land, stop paying your property taxes. Then you'll find out who owns the land. So that made it a little easier for me to make the decision to sell because it's temporary.

Participant 2: Yeah. It's kind of temporary. I think that's wrong by the way. If you pay for it, when you get there, you shouldn't have to pay property taxes.

Participant 1: Yeah. I mean, there's been a huge push here to get rid of property taxes.

Participant 2: Yeah. I think in some states they're in the process of getting rid of it. Good. Good. Yeah. It's stupid. Why are you still paying on land when you already bought it? So it makes no sense. It's a crime. It's criminal. Yeah. It's a wealth tax really is what it is. And it's a form of taxing unrealized gains. The government prints up all this money, which causes inflation. That's really a big reason why house prices go up. It's because it isn't so much that the value of the property goes up. It's because the value of the currency goes down because they printed up so much money and they've diluted the currency. So they drive the price up and as the price goes up, your taxes go up because you're taxed on the value of the property. So yeah, it is kind of a way of stealing from you.

Participant 1: And for most people, a big portion of their wealth is tied up in the property they own. And yeah, I could go on. I used to be on a municipal council. I used to be a mayor.

Participant 2: You used to be a what? Mayor?

Participant 1: A mayor. Yeah. I think you mentioned that before. Yeah. And so yeah, I know how the property tax system works. It's almost a form of theft in a way. Especially when you're dealing with bigger governments, big civic governments too, they just waste money. They waste it.

Participant 2: Oh, exactly. Taxation is theft. There you go.

Participant 2: I took this week and part of last week and Friday off to get some work done on my book, but really disappointed myself. I really haven't done that much on the book. I've been working more on visuals for my Monster Hunter Guide to Living thing. And instead of a course, which is what I'm still paying down from a course investment I made, that $10,000. It wasn't an AI course. They had an AI component, but it wasn't AI. It was to get a course or a mastermind group going. So you could kind of start that up. And I learned a lot and I created some awesome stuff. And it put me -- if I created the Monster Hunter's Guide to Living, it made me think of that. That was an inspiration. But the problem that they had is that they would coach you through email and big group calls. So they didn't really have one-on-ones and I was expecting one-on-ones. And so I had a hard time trying to figure out how to make the Monster Hunter's Guide to Living a course. And then with my writing and other stuff, I just didn't have time. And so the year ran out, but I still have this huge debt now.

Participant 2: I hate that. But anyway, so I've been thinking about making it as a YouTube channel. And so I could do that and still have the teachings and stuff in there. And that would help me really create some graphics for it. So I still have today, the weekend and Monday, this is Memorial Day weekend, to work on the book. So the graphics, I'll show you this while I'm working on it right now.

Participant 2: I want to create just like, so basically when I started these videos, I'll be like, you know, one of the things -- I was doing a mind map. And we've talked about that. Just in my sketchbook, a mind map of different issues to talk about. And one of them was showing people how to finish things. Because I've had some friends, like people get in their way all the time.

Participant 2: And I even had a friend -- when He-Man comes out in a few weeks, I want to go with a friend of mine. And he's having stuff at work. He might get a new job. And so he said, oh, I don't think I can do it, man. Because blah, blah, blah. I have to save money. And he does that with everything. He gets in his way with everything. He tried to start a book. He got 50,000 words in it, he didn't finish the book. He was supposed to sound produce audio dramas. He did four and then psyched himself out. Said, oh, I can't do anymore, man. He does that with everything. And I am sick of people getting in their own way.

Participant 2: And I told him, it's like, seriously, you're getting together with friends to see freaking He-Man. We've been waiting for 40 years for this stupid thing. And it's rejuvenating. It's not going to cost you a lot of money. And exactly the reason why you're worried about everything else is exactly why you need to do this. Because now you're worshipping the problem and giving energy and focus and attention to the problem by not doing this and just trying to conserve everything. So I'm just tired of people getting in their own way and just having their identity and beliefs get in the way.

Participant 2: So that'll probably be one of my first videos in that. It'll be kind of fun. I'll put together a bunch of them casually. I was creating like a quick intro. So when it starts, I'll be like, today we're going to talk about, I'll say something effective. And ChatGPT helped me out. Instead of putting a 30 second intro in the beginning where people lose attention, I still want some kind of branding thing in there. So I suggested talking about it, put the hook in, then do a five to ten second thing and then go into the rest.

Participant 2: Like I'll be saying like, you have a problem finishing things? Do you ever get in your own way or never finish what you're trying to do? And so you have a whole laundry list of things that never get done. We're going to talk about that. And I'm going to give you some keys today to be able to hunt those demons down and kill them so you can actually finish your projects. And then what I'm going to kind of start out is me talking about the problem. And then say, this is the Monster Hunter's Guide for Living, let's go hunting. And then there's going to be a quick five second intro. Really quick intro.

Participant 1: And you've got a good persona for this because you've got a good voice for it. Your voice is enthusiastic about talking about it. So I think that that's kind of one of your talents in there too that you can deploy for this whole operation.

Participant 2: I hope so, man. So can you see my guy? Which one do you see? You see my guy running away from creatures?

Participant 1: The guy running with the purple creatures all around? Yep.

Participant 2: And then I'll go, boom, Monster Hunter's Guide for Living. It'll be that quick. It'll be music and stuff.

Participant 1: And you made that. That's nice. That looked good.

Participant 2: Yeah, isn't that fun, man? Yeah. So it'll be like, I'll say, this is the Monster Hunter's Guide for Living. Let's go hunting. And it'll be like, boom. Boom, Monster Hunter's Guide for Living. It'll be really quick, right? And I'll make that music too. I always put my music in that Suno app, right?

Participant 2: This is literally like -- this is five seconds. So it'll be like six or seven seconds. So I won't lose anybody's attention in it because I'll already give the hook of what I'm talking about. And I'll do a trailer. I'll do a longer intro in the trailer. But this will just be in every episode. And then I thought it'd be fun if I have a point I really wanted to call out. Instead of just putting it on the screen, I would do some kind of little monster thing to be like, here's the point, guys. And then it'll go to black and it will have the point I'm trying to make. So it'll say, your perception of who you are is why you do not get things done. Or whatever the point I want to make is.

Participant 2: So if I have five lessons in this thing or three points or a quotable, it'll go, whoosh, and then turn to black and then boom, the point comes up. So it's very branded. And this is no time at all, so I'm not going to lose attention with it.

Participant 1: That's really freaking fun. That's pretty cool. I like it.

Participant 2: So that's validation for me. So thank you. Legitimately, people will say, oh, you made that with AI, but I know the work that you have to do in order to make something work in AI. Because you can't just throw a prompt in and expect it to work. You've got to do a lot of fine-tuning. And there's so many iterations I've been through a lot to get these.

Participant 1: Oh, yeah. This one, it's just going to have music, but it's going to be like, boom. You've got to create the whole sound effect and all that. And the artist, the style is kind of cartoony, kind of fun. Yeah.

Participant 2: Yeah, that's kind of what I like, because it's going to be a lot of serious discussions on stuff, so I want to keep it mythical, heroic, and villainous, right? And I don't really see that in any kind of self-development kind of stuff, so it's a unique take on it.

Participant 1: Because I put the transcript through. There's this one transcription routine that I've got. The problem is it doubles up all the statements in it. So it'll repeat a statement. So there's some cleanup I've got to do in that script to eliminate that. But what I do is I take that, I put it into Claude, and then I've got a cleanup skill that I've made. So it cleans all that up. So it generates a nice cleaned up transcript with summaries, points and all that, just like within the transcription document. And then I take that and then I get Claude to take the whole transcript and then I build the whole exploratory page out of it.

Participant 1: Got that done last night. Now it did the first time, the first round. I was kind of going through it and there was a note at the bottom saying that the transcript cut off here. So I went to the original transcript and it was like, wait a second, there's way more to this. It basically cut off at the halfway point. So I had to process it, process each half, and then reassemble it and then build the page out of it again. So if you go to my website, it should come up on the list there.

Participant 2: Do you have the He-Man thing in there or is that just my own head?

Participant 1: I think that was your own thing.

Participant 2: Every time I went on your page, He-Man popped up, man. That might be your YouTube algorithm.

Participant 1: The link that comes through with the transcript. Yeah, you've got the video in here. That's pretty cool. Yeah, the video pops in there. So that's all part of the script. But it didn't list off literally the chapters, like 1, 2, 3, 4. It didn't list off the chapters at all?

Participant 2: Go to the transcript.

Participant 1: The transcript? Yeah, it should have it in the transcript. But that's everything, isn't it? Yeah. I thought that would give like chapter 1 and give like a couple lines of the base of that chapter, chapter 2. Kind of summarize that.

Participant 2: Oh, I see. Yeah, it does break it up, but yeah. But that's like the whole transcript. Yeah, interesting. Now, with that, okay, that's a good idea because I could... I mean, they're not that long. I thought they'd be longer, but it doesn't really look like each chapter is really that long.

Participant 1: Let me know, yeah, as you're going through it, if you've got some feedback. Because I always like playing with this kind of stuff to refine it down to how people want it. Like I just kind of, where I came up with this idea originally was I have one of my real estate collaborators. He sent me a video last week from a walkthrough of a property that he's selling. So I basically took the transcript and he was commenting through the video.

Participant 1: So as he was walking through, he was talking about all the different features in there. So he had one video clip. It was about five minutes long, walking through the outside. And then he had another video clip where he was talking from the outside, looking at the house and the property and all that. So I took the transcript from both of those videos, assembled it, put it together. And he's not a very technical guy, so I needed an easy way to send him everything to read. So I asked Claude. It's like, okay, I have a non-technical client. Can you give this to me in a form that he can easily consume? So it came up with the idea for the webpage with all the tabs in it.

Participant 1: So summary of everything he talked about.

Participant 2: That's great.

Participant 1: And then I also asked, as part of the process, for a draft ad copy, like an ad write-up. So it added that in another tab. And then I just said, okay, well this is great. So I took the HTML file, emailed it to him. And I said, just open this up in your phone. It should just open up. And it did. And he loved it. Basically he took the ad copy. He tuned it up, but basically took almost the whole thing almost verbatim with a few tune-ups and put that into his ads.

Participant 2: Yeah. Pull up what you wanted to show me, man.

Participant 1: Oh, okay, sure, yeah. And while you're pulling that up, one thing that hit me is a good analogy that Goldsmith said, actually, in one of his live teachings. You know how we always hear that the 3D world is a simulation, an illusion, and not real? And how consciousness is the truth, it's the true reality. But he had an example, which I'm totally going to use.

Participant 1: He said it's not that reality isn't real. It's like if a hand -- a hand can shoot you or it can feed you. It could cut you or it could heal your wound. So when you're looking at it, is it the hand doing it or is it the person behind the hand? There is a consciousness behind the hand. If I punch you, do you say the fist punched me or do you name the person who punched you? Because I am the cause, the consciousness by which the hand punched you. If the consciousness doesn't choose to punch you, the hand is not going to punch you. Now, the hand is not an illusion so much, it's just not the authority -- not the authority in what's happening. There is a consciousness behind it that is causing the hand to hit you.

Participant 1: That's right. So if you take the hand as this 3D world, you think, well, he punched me. Matters have consequences. 3D conditions are real. It's real in the fact that it happened, but that's not the cause. The cause is the consciousness, the person behind the fist. So if you realize that, yes, the condition is happening, but it's not the authority because there's a consciousness behind that that's causing that to happen. So the hand analogy is really crystal clear, realizing that matter itself is not what's happening to you. The cause is the consciousness behind it. And so when stuff happens, you change the consciousness. If a hand is hitting you, move out of the way, but that's not the cause. That's the effect.

Participant 1: The fist is the effect, and the cause is the consciousness that is causing that to happen. And so that's really clear to people. The fist is not the cause. It's not the reality of what's really happening. It's the consciousness behind it that is causing that. So you change the consciousness, and the fist won't hit you. Reality or matter will change. And so that's really crystal clear to me of explaining to people how consciousness is the true reality and not the fist, not the matter.

Participant 1: And the consciousness is really the decision-making process. Somebody makes a decision, like in the punching analogy, somebody has to make a decision to punch somebody for some reason. That's the person, the consciousness. And the same thing -- the thing that comes to mind for me is the gun control debate. The gun itself, the gun is like any other tool. A gun can harvest food, and a gun can also kill a person. But a gun can also defend against an aggressor. It's not the weapon. It's not the fist.

Participant 2: That's right. It's the consciousness. It's the person. Exactly. You can say the same thing about a hammer. A hammer can be used to build a house, and a hammer can be used to kill a person.

Participant 1: So it's similar. I've killed three people with a hammer, but most of the time I use it to build decks. It depends on the person. [laughs]

Participant 1: Okay, I've got my site dialed up here. Let's see here. So your guy saw his page, right? He saw his house and stuff?

Participant 2: Oh, yeah, yeah. He liked it?

Participant 1: Oh, yeah, he liked it, yeah. That's really cool. I just decided to whip it up for him because we're kind of collaborating on things, so it's not like he didn't ask for it. I just kind of looked at it, and I said, I could do something with this. And then I just put it together and said, here you go.

Participant 2: That's great, man. That's a great value you can give, man, just part of your packaging.

Participant 1: All right, so here is the site that I've got. I've got the login page all built. And I've kind of got the payment structure set up here now so I can go through. I've got this wired into Stripe so I can go into Stripe here and start buying things. I've got it in test mode right now.

Participant 2: Okay. So this is Stripe. The payment system is Stripe. How are you hosting the site?

Participant 1: I'm hosting the site on -- well, the mapping platform is Mapbox. So that's one platform that I have. The site itself is hosted on Netlify. And that's where you can just kind of load up the whole thing, and it goes on there, and it's hosted there. The database itself is hosted on Supabase.

Participant 2: I don't get how you're doing that. How are you doing that with your pages like you're doing from the videos from Claude? Are they hosted somewhere?

Participant 1: Yeah, the ones from Claude, that's just on my shared hosting server. So I've got shared hosting, but you could do that with GoDaddy or whatever platform you want. Okay. So once you create your page from Claude, you have it. Yeah. Before you can give it publicly, you have to go set up the URL and all that. What I do is I've got the folder mapped in my Windows Explorer. So basically, I just copy it from -- when Claude generates the page, I download it onto my hard drive. It goes into a temporary folder on my B drive. From there, I just copy it from the B drive, paste it into the hosting folder, and then it's up.

Participant 1: And then I built that -- so that directory page that you log into, so when you go to my website slash pages. So I built a directory there that basically scans the folder and serves up any HTML page that lives in that folder. So there's that whole list of files in there. So just as soon as I load something up into that folder, it already knows it's there and you can just click on it.

Participant 2: That's interesting. I'm creating my website, which is looking awesome, but I'm not sure how to host it and stuff yet.

Participant 1: Oh, okay. Well, yeah, I mean, if I can help you on that, just let me know because I can just tell you what I would do anyway. I've just kind of been learning this stuff on the go for the last four years. Most of it was learned with AI.

Participant 1: So in this one there was like four parties in this particular one.

Participant 2: What are those parties? What is it?

Participant 1: So CPC is Conservative Party of Canada. Lib is the Liberals. NDP is the New Democratic Party. And PPC is the People's Party of Canada. And I think there was like 20 parties registered. Like we got the Marxist-Leninist, the Communist Party. There's the RINO Party and stuff like that.

Participant 2: Really? That's hilarious. It's funny they're called Libs too. The Lib Party is the Democrat Party. That's hilarious. These are all Conservative, right? The blue is Conservative there?

Participant 1: Yeah, blue is Conservative here.

Participant 2: That's cool, man. That's hopeful.

Participant 1: Yeah, and that's it. And then you can generate the report. That's what the value is in generating this report. So when this comes up, you can change the way that these factors go into the ranking. And then you can just order the list based on whatever factor you want to rank on. And then you can download it, export it to a CSV.

Participant 2: Sweet, sweet.

Participant 1: So this is what campaigns would have paid significant money for historically -- this list right here.

Participant 2: How do you get that information?

Participant 1: The raw information comes from the elections bureau. And it's all free. You can download that from the elections site. And then they've got it for the whole country. So what I had to do is I had to create a processing script to basically take all of the data from the whole country and sort it out into a database that this platform can consume and then display for the user.

Participant 2: So I'm guessing like when you get the information, it's not this nice, neat, and organized, right?

Participant 1: Well, it comes in a spreadsheet. So it's all in a tabular format. The big challenge was in dealing with how some of the polls were combined. So they would take votes from one area. They would combine it with another. So I had to deal with that in the process. So with this one here, there are so many combined areas. So when you click on one, what these arrows show is how the combinations work. So the polls with the little up arrows, that means the votes left that and were counted somewhere else. And the down arrow shows where the votes landed or where they were counted. So when you clicked on this one here, that means that it included votes from those other polls. And then it also shows you on this panel here how all the contributions worked. And all of these had some kind of combination. So this was the worst one to deal with. This one actually took a long time to figure out how to deal with all the combinations.

Participant 2: I don't know how you do that, man. This is definitely part of your genius here. You catch on to things quickly though, man. You got involved in film and stuff. And you did in like a year what took me like four or five years to get that good. So when you dive into something, you learn quickly.

Participant 1: I probably had some crap. I just didn't show it.

Participant 2: The fact that you knew it was crap, you iterated and improved, evolved already before you've been showing us. So that's a huge gift, man. Whatever your modus operandi is and how you operate, that's genius, man. And you can really express it in a lot of different ways.

Participant 1: If I'm interested in something, I'll dive in and do it. Figure skating is not something I'm interested in, as an example.

Participant 2: Right, of course not. But something like this, because this combines a few things. So this combines an area of genuine interest, which is mapping and how to put things together in a technical manner. The technical aspect is interesting to me. The political aspect of it is a big interest for me. But also the fact that, at the end of this, there could be a monetary aspect to it as well. So it's the combination of those things.

Participant 1: And when I really started, I really started this specifically six or seven weeks ago, I think. But prior to that, you can count years of exploring small aspects of it. And so it's just a genuine interest. There's a combination of aspects to it. The reason why I've been able to take something highly technical like this and do something with it is because of that interest.

Participant 1: Well, I mean, are you familiar with the Ikigai concept?

Participant 2: I'm familiar with the concept of it, yeah. I put this into my -- and you've been working with ChatGPT. It knows you by now, right? Put something similar to this in the chat in your -- create a new chat in ChatGPT or Claude or whatever, whichever one you've worked in the most and it knows you the best. And see what it gives you. I'm just really curious because it could really break things down, man.

Participant 1: It's like, oh, this would be really good in here, and this would be really good in here, and then you kind of make those happen one way or the other. And it does take a little longer than originally thought to kind of make some of these things happen. But that's part of the discovery process that kind of keeps me going with it too. It's like, okay, well, how do you make this happen? And then you go down that particular rabbit hole. It pops up when you start taking the steps -- more opportunities, more ways to see it.

Participant 2: And it just reminds me of the map. You know, of like the circle diagram. There's maybe 1 to 2 percent of what we know what we know, and then there's maybe 3 to 4 percent we know what we don't know. We don't know how to quilt, but we know that we don't know how to quilt. And then there's like 95 percent that we don't know that we don't know. And that 95 to 98 percent that we don't know we don't know is where that magic happens. So when you get involved in something, any new project like this that's so involved, you don't know that you need something halfway through, right? You don't know that you don't know that when you're starting because you don't know enough about it. That's right. So it's an interesting discovery and exploration and that's just where the magic happens when you're doing it.

Participant 2: So looking at the map here -- does the coverage go all the way down into the northern U.S. border region there, or is that just Canada?

Participant 1: That's not included. This just covers Canada. But the thought I have had as I was building this is to actually, once this is built, put this out there because I can do this for anywhere that election data is publicly available. Of course you have election data in the U.S. I mean, a lot of people have built presidential maps just to show you how all the counties voted in the U.S. So that kind of thing I can do. I can do it down at the state level, I can do it down at the county level, city level. Anywhere that election data is available, I can put something like this.

Participant 2: I'd be proud of that, man. That's a ton of work. It looks awesome, man.

Participant 1: Thank you. If I was running campaigns and stuff, I would definitely want this. And that's kind of what's kept me interested in it. Because I've been involved in campaigns for years. And a resource like this, especially at the national level, there's a lot of value here.

Participant 2: Yeah. And the consciousness thing applies there too. People move somewhere and bring the same thinking that broke the place they left. They don't get that it's not the geography, it's the consciousness.

Participant 1: That's right. It's like, if you're going to come here and bring your consciousness, this is going to be as bad as where you came from, and they don't get that. So that's where the education comes into play, man.

Participant 2: I try to keep my nose out of that stuff to be as joyful as I possibly can. Yeah, that's a good thing. I have friends who get sucked into all that stuff, and they're like, oh, we're going to have the Civil War, man. It's like, dude, you listen to the crappy news 24-7 when you're working on other stuff. It's getting in your brain. You think it's not impacting? Just let it. Stop it. So the further away I am, the better.

Participant 1: Well, I found that too. The last few weeks, especially since I've been on this mapping project, it's kind of ironic because of course this is a political project. But I've been off social media, not completely off, but my consumption has gone down by about 80% to 90% in the last seven weeks that I've been involved in this mapping project here. And it's been great because as soon as I go back on there, I did a little bit last night. I just kind of scrolled a little bit, and I found myself getting involved in some of the chatter because right now, there's a huge debate going on here about whether our province should separate from the rest of the country.

Participant 2: Yeah, you can't, even logic, man, even people's sources. It's like, you put a source of something, a video, literally somebody said, and then they will combat you with two other articles from other sites saying the exact opposite. And it's like, dude, you realize those are completely biased articles that are outright lying, right? So, all information -- and this is especially with AI -- you can't tell what's real and you won't be able to soon enough. Yeah. Like, you can't rely on anything out there externally, whether it's said, seen, or written to tell you what truth is or what you believe. That's why you have to always come back here, because you can have evidence for anything. You have to inevitably go inside, and to the detriment of all external sources. And so that's why it's always coming back here, back to the soul, because everything else doesn't matter.

Participant 1: Yeah. That's a good point to leave this on.

Participant 2: It's a healthy, positive outlook, man. Yeah. So, what do you hope to do next week, man? What do you want to do?

Participant 1: Next week? I want to get this live next week. Really? Yeah. I've just got to, like I said, I've got maybe three solid days to just get the payments wired up and finalize the offer. There's a downloadable report -- I'm going to make that into a PDF that also incorporates some maps. So there's a process that I've got to do to generate all the maps for the country, which I can do. I've already got that laid out. But the PDF maps are going to be incorporated with the PDF download. Because I want to get this to be a professional looking report that they get.

Participant 2: Unfortunately, I don't think it ends until it just implodes on its own. And where that happens, I think, is when the money printing becomes totally unsustainable, which people have been saying for years. This is unsustainable. But there has to come a point at some point where it really is unsustainable.

Participant 1: I think we're probably getting close to that point. And geopolitical conflicts are connected into it because they're really about defending the ability to continually print money without the runaway inflation that you normally would have. So when that ability runs out, when other countries of the world just say, well, you know what, we actually don't need the U.S. dollar to trade internationally anymore, then that's kind of the end of the gravy train because then the money can't be printed anymore because there's no demand for it.

Participant 2: Yeah, well, I mean, the digital dollar is scary, man, because you know where that goes.

Participant 1: Yeah. So you're going to be at the store and swiping -- I'm sorry, sir, I see you have negative 150 social credits. You cannot buy this today. So we know where it goes. It's complete control.

Participant 2: You've got to start with the consciousness. You know, you can't keep changing matter against matter. You can try to change the policies and keep doing that. Again, the fist is coming at you, you move, but that's not inevitably where it stops, because if you stop them in one thing, they're just going to come around to do another thing because it's not about the matter, it's about the consciousness. It's not about the fist and how they do it, it's the consciousness. So that's why we've got to educate, we've got to show people, hey, you are the soul. All this stuff that teaches people to become powerful beings instead of relying on this system of corruption.

Participant 2: I think that's a problem the liberals always try -- they try to do it with matter, with the 3D world. They try to make utopia out of changing policies and changing things out there. I remember Jordan Peterson -- one woman was talking to him in a meeting, in a conference he was giving, and she said something about wanting to change something and about cleaning something up, and he said, well, how are you? Do you make your bed in the morning? She goes, I don't see how that has to do with anything. It's like, well, that's where it starts.

Participant 1: Right, yeah. And she was just totally dismissive of him, not understanding that if you just work on yourself, change yourself, the external will change. Like she didn't relate the two. So they're always trying to change out there but not change themselves. And that's the problem -- always trying to change out there but not yourself. Well, and that kind of reminds me of some of my philosophy and how I look at things. I look at, okay, what would happen if everybody in the world adopted this particular way of being?

Participant 2: Right. What would happen? You know, just take the argument to the absolute extreme. What if absolutely everybody adopted this instead of this? You can apply that to a lot of moral arguments.

Participant 1: Well, it would be the result, yeah. And the same thing -- what if everybody adopted what has been popularly attributed to Judeo-Christian beliefs, let's say. Right. And if everybody adopted that way, well, we kind of have some evidence of where things would go because people, society has generally kind of adopted that as the basis for Western civilization at least. And we have a number of generations that have continued on, for better or for worse. And when we start to drift away from a lot of those beliefs and teachings, society starts to feel a little chaotic. If you boil it down to just the Ten Commandments -- if everybody just lived by the Ten Commandments and that's it, society would arguably be pretty sustainable. And when you get away from it, you totally dispose of it and everybody just reacts and just lives on impulse, well, then that's when things fall apart.

Participant 2: If you're at the correct consciousness, you're not going to want to covet your neighbor's wife, right? If you're right up there in consciousness, they're not rules, they're just expressions of who you are and who you want to be. And so you don't have to try to fight to be there. You're already there, and that's just a natural expression of living in that consciousness.

Participant 1: Yeah, right, right. And that's the goal, man. Yeah. So all right, man, we have taken up enough of your time here.

Participant 2: Hey, that's okay. It was a good discussion, so it was fun.

Participant 1: Yeah, it was fun, man. Yeah, we got to go a little bit longer this time. So yeah, good time.

Participant 2: It's not just a snap of the finger to make that happen. Right, no, not for this. It's, again, the conscious person doing it, not the tool.

Participant 1: Yeah, totally. Yeah, and the artist, the style is like a kind of cartoony, kind of fun. And that's what I kind of like, because it's going to be a lot of serious discussions on stuff, so I want to keep it mythical, heroic, and villainous, right? And I don't really see that in any kind of self-development kind of stuff, so it's a unique take on it.

Participant 1: Well, there's one way to find out. You've just got to get it into the world.

Participant 2: I know, I know. I'm kind of afraid of the time it would take to do enough to gain any kind of momentum with it on YouTube, you know? Because I have other things to do, man. I got my books, and I've got the AI cinematic stuff I want to do with my business, so it's just like, yeah.

Participant 1: Oh, I hear you. I've got a bunch of projects and interests that I've got on the go, too, and it's like they're kind of like these thoughts, these ideas. It's kind of like they're almost like children. You can't.

Participant 2: Yeah. It's like picking which kid you can just sacrifice, you know?

Participant 1: Right, right. No, I love them all.

Participant 2: Exactly. Well, go build your family, and I'll go build mine, man.

Participant 2: Yeah, you betcha. Thank you, sir.

Participant 1: You as well. Take care. Good seeing you. Bye-bye.

Participant 2: Bye for now.